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MoarGrip
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« on: June 02, 2015, 12:25:49 PM »

I have one track day at Grattan Raceway in Belding MI in the books, and I'd really love to do that at Mid Ohio as well as I live in Columbus. A test and tune event seemed like a great way to do this (i.e. July 17th 2015), but it seems that a SCCA race license may be required for this? Any recommendations would be helpful and appreciated.
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Sladek
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2015, 01:18:27 PM »

look into HPDEs, easiest way to get on and no racing license required just a tech inspection. ovr always has one and there's always a bunch on motorsportreg.com
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2015, 01:50:23 PM »

I would recommend an SCCA PDX (Performance Driving Experience)

No license is required and they will pair you with a knowledgeable instructor.

I don't know that OVR's website has been updated, but I believe our PDX is scheduled for October and Cincinnati region has one scheduled in August
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2015, 01:59:05 PM »

PDX is always a good route to breach people into track days.

There is always NASA, which I've ran with. However their pace seems quick for someone who just wants to run their car. What I mean, is that they tend to want to progress you through the groups to become the fastest driver and eventually go into time trials or wheel to wheel.


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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2015, 02:58:04 PM »

How much is the PDX event? It isn't open on MSR yet.
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2015, 03:11:11 PM »

How much is the PDX event? It isn't open on MSR yet.

OVR PDX   10/09/2015   Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course
http://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2015-ohio-valley-pdx-club-trial-mid-sports-car-course-scca-racing-809734#.VW3_xskoumB

Registration opens in 2 months at August 5, 2015 8:00 AM EDT
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2015, 07:52:16 AM »

or the cincinnatti regions PDX on 8/7 on there friday before IT-Spectacular would be a good one also... if you don't want to wait till oct.

or do both
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2015, 05:54:16 PM »

How much is the PDX event? It isn't open on MSR yet.

OVR PDX   10/09/2015   Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course
http://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2015-ohio-valley-pdx-club-trial-mid-sports-car-course-scca-racing-809734#.VW3_xskoumB

Registration opens in 2 months at August 5, 2015 8:00 AM EDT


The OVR PDX is always a GREAT time!  This is the link to the Cincy weekend that is prior to the OVR event.  I vote for you to do them both!  Smiley

http://www.motorsportreg.com/events/i-t-spec-tacular-mid-ohio-sports-car-course-scca-cincinnati-979761#.VXdfxpVFDIU
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Matt Downing
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2015, 12:16:02 PM »

I keep trying to touch base with the Cincy region folks, but get nowhere. And they just delayed the registration opening. I really need to know a projected cost and number of sessions to expect - can anyone provide this from past events?
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2015, 01:27:43 PM »

I believe there should be 4 - 20 min sessions (usually one a little longer depending on how everyone does during the day).  As for cost, last year the PDX was $235 for non SCCA members and $220 for members.  (I did the Cincy PDX in my new car last year)

Hope this helps!

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Matt Downing
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2015, 07:20:36 AM »

Yikes, $240 for SCCA members. Is the OVR event projected to be any cheaper? I have to do one of them, really want to experience Mid Ohio. Mid Ohio has some events of their own, including special SCCA Open Test and Tune and Open Lapping, but it looks like I would need a race license for the former (don't have) or would be required to just do limited speed lead/follow for the latter (since I haven't taken anything in the Mid Ohio school).
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2015, 03:36:53 PM »

OVR event is likely to be priced similarly. $240 for 80 minutes of track time is a ridiculously good deal when you compare it to the seat time you get at an autocross.

As I recall, the last 2 PDX's I went to we actually did about 90-100 minutes of track time because things went so smoothly.
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2015, 12:49:27 AM »

Yikes, $240 for SCCA members. Is the OVR event projected to be any cheaper? I have to do one of them, really want to experience Mid Ohio. Mid Ohio has some events of their own, including special SCCA Open Test and Tune and Open Lapping, but it looks like I would need a race license for the former (don't have) or would be required to just do limited speed lead/follow for the latter (since I haven't taken anything in the Mid Ohio school).

If you want to run big tracks, you better get used to paying $100s, rather than the $10s that you pay for Solo.  And remember, that's just the price of entry.  You also will likely spend much more on fuel, tires, brakes, etc....  And if you have a mechanical failure while on track, the repair cost is likely to be exponentially higher as well.

Car racing gets very expensive.  Don't fool yourself into thinking that you can ignore the cost just because "it's only a PDX".  Decide ahead of time if you can really afford the price.  If not, then save your money until you can truly afford to take the plunge.
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2015, 08:52:44 AM »

And when you look around and find other organizations that charge less, make sure you know what you are getting with your entry.  Most other clubs do not have the level of insurance coverage that the SCCA has.  Our insurance covers track damage caused by a competitor.  If your day goes bad, it won't get worse with a bill for track repair.  These bills can be several thousand dollars and you DO NOT want to  be on the hook for that along with whatever bad thing happened...  Some clubs have phrases like "incidents between cars on track is between the drivers". This means if you happen to have contact with another car, they may expect you to cover their damage.  And your auto insurance may or may not (most don't) cover it.  SCCA events are billed as you are responsible for anything that happens to your car no matter who is at fault.

Another thing: The folks in charge of the PDX at an SCCA event do not make a dime.  Their first concern is safety.  Most other organizations have someone who takes home (or takes a loss) at the end of the day.  I've got my opinions on this and am happy to share them over a beer!

Hope to see you at at least one of the track days this year!  I'm planning to do them both before the race weekends (haven't had the car out of the garage this year).

Good luck!!!!!
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2015, 04:08:21 PM »

I heard a few years back what it cost to rent Mid-Ohio for the weekend, and it was very expensive, more so than most other tracks in the area, as I recall. Running a PDX at Mid-Ohio is a pretty expensive proposition, not just in entry fees, but in other associated costs as well, but it is worth it to me to try and do one or two a year if I can fit them in my schedule. The last time I ran a PDX was in my Mustang, and it used a lot of gas on track, I think I had close to $400 out of pocket for the whole day for all costs involved. If I had upgraded the brakes like I was thinking about, that would have doubled. As it was, I ran the PDX with original, stock brakes (but fresh fluid), and was aware of the limitations of the stock brakes and didn't push it beyond those limitations. The first time I was on track at Mid-Ohio, many years ago in my Neon, I had done fresh pads and rotors and brake fluid before the event, and I still badly overheated the brakes. I boiled the fluid, ruined the front pads and rotors, and cracked a piston in the caliper.
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2015, 11:52:19 AM »

Registration for the Cincy event:

https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/i-t-spec-tacular-mid-ohio-sports-car-course-scca-cincinnati-979761#.Va0ZGk3bK_A
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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2015, 04:01:14 PM »

OVR PDX Reg

http://www.motorsportreg.com/events/2015-ohio-valley-pdx-mid-sports-car-course-scca-club-racing-809734
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