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Author Topic: Beater Alert! 2001 Civic EX - Manual $1200 / OBO!  (Read 1117 times)
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« on: September 05, 2018, 09:32:26 AM »

You missed the opportunity!  Now that I have time into it, it looks better and is ready to go for the winter. Now $800 $1200!  

Sept 23 Update:  Car is all cleaned up and ready to go. Advertising it in general at $1500, here at $1200, but flexuible as I want to move it.  Old photos deleted from this ad. Additional photos here:
http://s145.photobucket.com/user/31rx7/library/2004%20Civic%20EX%20-%20FOR%20SALE

Sept 17 Evening Update: I took off the rear bumper cover and pushed out some of the damage and put it back on. Will clean up the paint next.

Also, see my response to Keith regarding other details on the car.

Sept 17 Update: I replaced the compressor with a J/Y one but it's not the right one, so it's not connected; basically serving as a idler pulley.  I think the old compressor is good but it's the compressor clutch is bad, so you can simply swap compressor clutches!

Also, found out the car is a 2001, not a 2004.  Which happens to be the reason the compressor I bought is not quite right. The 2001's have a one wire electrical connector, and the 2002 - 2004 have a three wire connector.

Next up, I am working on the rear bumper.  Turns out virtually all the damage is to the bumper and not in the trunk lid. and I believe I can remove the cover, pop out the dent, and rattle can it to look decent.


Be "that guy" or "that gal" when you pull into the country club or your favorite Short North club with this fine hooptie. Yes, when you pull in with this champagne colored piece of Japanese engineering, and toss your keys to the valet, your confidence and poise will show when you say "Take care of this - it has to get me through the winter! And by the way, it has REMOTE key entry!"

The A/C compressor in daughter Amanda's Civic crapped out, and rather than fix, she got a 2004 Mazda 6.  So, the Civic is up for sale.  

The good:

  • It's a Honda! Will run pretty much forever.
  • Generally known history. We are the fourth owners. Original > SCCA guy in MD > my nephew > Amanda
  • Generally well maintained. Good tires, brakes, new radiator. Newer battery (2017?)
  • Hot heat.
  • I think it has a sunroof. Stereo works well.  EX package has PW, PDL, etc.
  • You can drive to metal concerts and not worry about damage to your car.
  • Does not leak anything or use any fluids.
  • Drives great.

The not so good:
  • A/C compressor shot and making noise.  Would not recommend driving far without replacing. Compressor kits (including various other components) are $200 and up on RockAuto. Please recover the freon like you are supposed to!
  • Needs an oil change. Pretty sure I have a filter to go with it. Normally, I change the oil before selling, but at this price point, that would be a major investment!
  • Car had a light hit in left rear bumper. Trunk is bent and bumper cover is torn. Trunk still opens and closes fine. Did not get into fender IIRC. Easy fix but could be driven as is. Doesn't look terrible depending on your standards.
  • Pretty sure it has original shocks.
  • Interior needs a good cleaning. Or at least disinfecting.

Other thoughts:

  • Rallycross.
  • Autocross at NTR.  Kind of similar to RX.
  • I was thinking of removing the A/C and installing the brackets, etc. from a non AC Civic DX. Cheap fix to get it to DD status.
  • Similarly, trunk lids and bumper covers are cheap at the JY.

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1.7l of D-Series powah.  Can you handle it?



You date will no doubt be impressed as you stroll up to your steed for night on the town.






As you settle into the driver's center, you smile a smug smile knowing you are in charge of your destiny.







Like any battle tested veteran, there are a few scars.  But these serve as a warning to those who might want to spar.




You won't be considered a kook when you out-corner the competition with these Hankooks!



Might consider a trade for something I am interested in. Guitars, S197 Mustang parts, etc.

Lemme know. PM / Email me here or sell at sic won pho phi sic won tree pho won too.

Rich
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2018, 10:19:12 AM »

No interest at all?  Not even a snide remark from Brian or Jerry? 

Man, this place is really slipping...
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2018, 01:29:14 PM »

No interest at all?  Not even a snide remark from Brian or Jerry? 

Man, this place is really slipping...

Considering Jerry owns more hotwheels worth of cars than this car is being sold for...
(feel better)?
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2018, 09:01:33 PM »

No interest at all?  Not even a snide remark from Brian or Jerry? 

Man, this place is really slipping...

Considering Jerry owns more hotwheels worth of cars than this car is being sold for...
(feel better)?

If I could bring cheap real civics home $1 at a time, I would.
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2018, 07:44:29 AM »

No interest at all?  Not even a snide remark from Brian or Jerry? 

Man, this place is really slipping...

Considering Jerry owns more hotwheels worth of cars than this car is being sold for...
(feel better)?
Good one.
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2018, 07:32:34 AM »

if I could convince my wife that I needed a rallyx car this would be a great start
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2018, 09:21:41 PM »

It appears Pick and Pull has a Civic in the same color. $35 for the trunk lid and $40 for the bumper.

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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2018, 02:33:03 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2018, 07:39:57 PM »

I was ready to buy until I read the puns above each picture. Now I'm out.

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2018, 01:26:37 AM »

Damn it, Jerry. I worked hard on the captions.
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2018, 08:36:36 AM »

Updated for price.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2018, 06:07:02 PM »

 So  Rich, you're saying since you replaced the AC compressor (with an incorrect one), it no longer needs anything to be daily driven (although without functional AC)? This may be the exact droid I'm  looking for, for my soon to be 16 year old son. Never owned a Honda before, would you hazard a guess that it should last a year or two with minimal repairs?
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2018, 09:41:23 PM »

It's a honda from the early 2000s...it'll run forever (boringly) until you forget to put oil in it or it rusts to the ground.

On a more serious note, IIRC early 2000s Civic is one of the bigger takata risks, might want to make sure that gets taken care of if it hasn't been already.
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2018, 09:48:58 PM »

So  Rich, you're saying since you replaced the AC compressor (with an incorrect one), it no longer needs anything to be daily driven (although without functional AC)? This may be the exact droid I'm  looking for, for my soon to be 16 year old son. Never owned a Honda before, would you hazard a guess that it should last a year or two with minimal repairs?
Correct. It is pretty close to ready for daily driver, no A/C - truly a beater with a heater.  A few notes:
  • Changed the oil tonight (doubled the value!).
  • Checked the front pads and rear shoes - they are about 50%.
  • Found a broken lug on the LR wheel that I fixed.
  • Tires look pretty new - I think she bought them a year ago.  
  • New radiator about 3 months ago.  Old one had developed a leak as there was a light hit in front somewhere along the way, and the lower core support was bent, bending the radiator eventually causing it to leak.
  • Timing belt was done at 100,000, about 4 or 5 years ago, but I have no documentation.  If I were to keep it, I would replace along with the water pump and tensioner.
  • Bushings in the shifter and / or shift linkage are shot. Gearshift is only slightly more precise than a broomstick in bucket of mud.  But, it is functional.
  • Car is incredibly dirty, especially interior. Should clean up OK.

I drove it a few miles this evening (no plates) just to make sure it worked OK.  I am still going over it, and need to check the lights to make sure they all work, etc.  

I found the original ad on RRAX.  Car was from a  friend of John Vitamvas. http://www.roadraceautox.com/showthread.php?50127-FS-2001-Civic-EX-4-door-5-speed-MD-DC-VA-PA-area-2900&highlight=2001+Civic

Now, will it last a year or two without repair?  I don't see why it wouldn't, but it's a 17 year old car that led a rough life for a couple years with my daughter.  
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2018, 05:04:04 PM »

Ad updated.
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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2018, 06:12:26 PM »

I like your sales strategy... Buy now before the price goes up again!

In all seriousness, a running and driving Civic at this price point will sell in 5 minutes on Craigslist... If you want to deal with that.

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2018, 06:58:01 PM »

Jerry, I looked at our local CL to help with pricing, and everything below $1,500 is either wrecked or is in need of work to be a good driver.  I think $1,200 is very fair for this.

I've purposely not advertised it on CL in order to avoid the crazies.  I did advertise it on NextDoor and on FB for $1,500, so we'll see what happens.
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2018, 10:10:59 AM »

this car is appreciating beyond belief!
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2018, 12:15:27 PM »

I like your sales strategy... Buy now before the price goes up again!

In all seriousness, a running and driving Civic at this price point will sell in 5 minutes on Craigslist... If you want to deal with that.

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i have it advertised on FB, and the potential buyers are even worse there.  Although a gent did stop by to look at it this morning.
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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2018, 07:28:06 PM »

This appears to be sold, thanks to a referral from Keith!

What sealed the deal is when I told him that Keith was eager to learn how to work on Honda's.

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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2018, 06:36:48 AM »

This appears to be sold, thanks to a referral from Keith!

What sealed the deal is when I told him that Keith was eager to learn how to work on Honda's.


Cheesy LOL. I recommended my buddy buy your Honda, instead of my '89 Country Squire wagon that he was looking at.........so I wouldn't have to learn how to work on Hondas, because they last forever and never break, right?
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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2018, 02:36:58 PM »

Are you selling the shaggin' wagon?  

I have this affinity for wagons as I learned to drive on one. Being from a family with 8 kids, it was either the 65 Valiant Wagon or the 73 VW Bus.  Spent a lot of time driving both of them.
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2018, 08:22:35 AM »

^^ how much time in the back of them though?
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« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2018, 03:00:11 AM »

Are you selling the shaggin' wagon?  

I have this affinity for wagons as I learned to drive on one. Being from a family with 8 kids, it was either the 65 Valiant Wagon or the 73 VW Bus.  Spent a lot of time driving both of them.
The first family car I have a memory of was a 1976 Chevy Caprice, lime green wagon, drove it around the farm a little bit when I was a pre-teen. After that we got a brown AMC Hornet Wagon, that was the first car I remember driving on the road at age 13  Grin

Yeah, thinking about selling the shaggin' wagon. It has been sitting outside for about a year, just haven't had the time and energy and garage space to work on it, would love to keep it if I had the garage space, but can't bear to kick the Miata, Mini, or BRZ out of the garage, besides, I could only fit one of those other cars in our garage if the beast was in there, as it would turn our 2+ car garage back into a 2 car garage, as the wagon is about the same size as the Mini and Miata put together.

The Country Squire wagon ran when parked, has less than 100k miles, and has practically zero body rust. Would make a great project car for somebody. Needs a fuel line (rusted out), a battery, and brake work, those are the known major issues. White with wood panel exterior, and period correct blue velour interior. Would love to resurrect it with my soon to be 16 year old son, but I'm not sure I trust him with a cargo area the size of a queen size bed, I know I wouldn't have trusted my teenage self with a car like that.  Cool Would love to see it go to a good home, care more about its future and keeping it running vs making money on it. If I Craigslist it for $800, it will probably end up a demo derby car  Cry
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« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2018, 08:13:56 AM »

Hmm...a definite cruise mobile.

What kind of brake work?  Rotors, calipers, pads / shoes, etc.? The usual stuff?
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« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2018, 09:15:38 AM »

Hmm...a definite cruise mobile.

What kind of brake work?  Rotors, calipers, pads / shoes, etc.? The usual stuff?
My guess is probably a rusted out brake line. I had the brakes checked out and some work done on them soon after I got it, but a few months after I parked it because of the fuel line issue, I started it up and drove it back and forth in the driveway a bit, and the pedal went to the floor.
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